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	<title>Comments on: facebook&#8217;s social ads beacon just used me</title>
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		<title>By: wlai</title>
		<link>http://aintnolai.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/facebooks-social-ads-beacon-spooked-me/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>wlai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MoveOn.Org is organizing a petition against the Beacon Ad&#039;s experience I blogged about.  Please join us and sign it here: http://civ.moveon.org/facebookprivacy/?r_by=-7671315-9UhPgm&amp;rc=confemail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MoveOn.Org is organizing a petition against the Beacon Ad&#8217;s experience I blogged about.  Please join us and sign it here: <a href="http://civ.moveon.org/facebookprivacy/?r_by=-7671315-9UhPgm&amp;rc=confemail" rel="nofollow">http://civ.moveon.org/facebookprivacy/?r_by=-7671315-9UhPgm&amp;rc=confemail</a></p>
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		<title>By: wlai</title>
		<link>http://aintnolai.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/facebooks-social-ads-beacon-spooked-me/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>wlai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>emily:  

i appreciate your response on this.  but since kongregate is about gaming, which is one of the most immersive experience online, is it reasonable to expect people to pay attention to a little popup at the corner of the screen, leave the game and read/click on the notification?  i think that you have a reasonable expectations that most people will not drop their game to respond to it, and that&#039;s what the design feels to me as a user: sneaking an ad by my attention.

i do understand your motivation of wanting to spread the kongregate message to everyone possible, you offer a great gaming site.  but i do think there is a line of reasonableness that you need to watch out for.  if i just signed up and played one game on kongregate, decided that i don&#039;t like it, will my name be used by kongregate as an endorser?  i don&#039;t think that&#039;s a fair use of my name for kongregate&#039;s bidding.

last but not least, I have a lot more issue with facebook on this experience.  they are letting spam/bacn through to not just me, but to my friends.  if this is what facebook is going to do to monetize, then i expect alot of people will be up in arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>emily:  </p>
<p>i appreciate your response on this.  but since kongregate is about gaming, which is one of the most immersive experience online, is it reasonable to expect people to pay attention to a little popup at the corner of the screen, leave the game and read/click on the notification?  i think that you have a reasonable expectations that most people will not drop their game to respond to it, and that&#8217;s what the design feels to me as a user: sneaking an ad by my attention.</p>
<p>i do understand your motivation of wanting to spread the kongregate message to everyone possible, you offer a great gaming site.  but i do think there is a line of reasonableness that you need to watch out for.  if i just signed up and played one game on kongregate, decided that i don&#8217;t like it, will my name be used by kongregate as an endorser?  i don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a fair use of my name for kongregate&#8217;s bidding.</p>
<p>last but not least, I have a lot more issue with facebook on this experience.  they are letting spam/bacn through to not just me, but to my friends.  if this is what facebook is going to do to monetize, then i expect alot of people will be up in arms.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Greer</title>
		<link>http://aintnolai.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/facebooks-social-ads-beacon-spooked-me/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Greer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi William,

We&#039;re very sorry you felt used by this. While we realize this is a little on the intrusive side, since Facebook is about telling people what you&#039;re doing we thought that most people would be comfortable with it since you&#039;re notified clearly about what is happening, and can opt out at any stage of the process. 

Next time a little notification pops if you choose No, Don&#039;t Send and then Never Ask Me Again and it will block this forever (on Kongregate at least).

For the story that is already on your minifeed, there&#039;s an x next to it that you can use to delete it.

You can also control this from Facebook&#039;s privacy settings. Click privacy, then external websites, and you&#039;ll see controls by external site there.

I agree that we should add an additional way to opt out on Kongregate itself, so that you don&#039;t have to wait for a notification to appear, and we&#039;ll consider other modifications of the program based on people&#039;s feedback.

Emily Greer
Co-Founder, Kongregate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi William,</p>
<p>We&#8217;re very sorry you felt used by this. While we realize this is a little on the intrusive side, since Facebook is about telling people what you&#8217;re doing we thought that most people would be comfortable with it since you&#8217;re notified clearly about what is happening, and can opt out at any stage of the process. </p>
<p>Next time a little notification pops if you choose No, Don&#8217;t Send and then Never Ask Me Again and it will block this forever (on Kongregate at least).</p>
<p>For the story that is already on your minifeed, there&#8217;s an x next to it that you can use to delete it.</p>
<p>You can also control this from Facebook&#8217;s privacy settings. Click privacy, then external websites, and you&#8217;ll see controls by external site there.</p>
<p>I agree that we should add an additional way to opt out on Kongregate itself, so that you don&#8217;t have to wait for a notification to appear, and we&#8217;ll consider other modifications of the program based on people&#8217;s feedback.</p>
<p>Emily Greer<br />
Co-Founder, Kongregate</p>
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